The babble of a middle-aged lunatic.
Spying vs. Monitoring a childs use of the internet.
Published on October 27, 2006 By Xythe In Parenting
Should parents and guardians spy on their children’s internet use?

It should be of no mystery to us that the internet is a potential breeding ground for many types of predators. Pedophiles, stalkers, serial killers and whatever other form of depraved individual (or group) that one can imagine.

Our young children are very susceptible to the manipulation of other adults. I for one do NOT want my daughter seeking important advice from somebody I do not know over the internet; would you?

What is the line between spying on our children’s internet activity and doing ones job as a parent by protecting our children from predators or meddling adults over the internet?

Some people may argue that a younger child should not have access to the internet. However, I disagree. Why limit an extremely valuable learning resource, and a practical end-user experience to older kids and adults exclusively? The extra knowledge and practical skills will come in very handy later on in life, and the head start perhaps invaluable.

I decided it was time for my 11-year-old daughter (at the time) to have her own PC with access to the internet. I told her straight off what kinds of “bad” things she may run across while surfing. I told her what she was allowed to do, and what she was not allowed to do. Basically, I explained much of what I know could possibly cause her harm as a result of dealing with certain people online.

I explained she was a big girl now, and I felt she was responsible enough to surf the internet, and use a computer of her own. I made it very clear that I would be making sure she kept up to my expectations, and would monitor her PC usage regularly. When she asked me why, I told her, “because I love you kiddo, and I don’t want anything harmful coming your way”.

I showed her what she could and could not do on her PC. I set up an email account and an IM for her, and then showed her how to use them. I enabled some parental controls to help keep off the porn. I also told her I had set up monitoring software that allows me to see exactly what she does while online. I told her if she abused any part of what I told her, she would begin losing PC privileges until she could show me she was responsible enough to have them back.

I then took her to my PC and showed her that I could in fact see EVERYTHING she did. I made it very clear that should she step outside our agreement, I would strap her PC so tight she may as well not use it. She agreed. I was quite impressed with her.

To date, she being now 14-years-old, I have not really needed to restrict Shelby’s internet use very often, and I rarely even have a look at what she does. I was pretty amazed that she never even once asked me to uninstall the monitoring software. That’s my GREAT kid


Would you do something similar with your children as I did with my daughter Shelby?

Do you feel an 11-year-old is to young to operate her own PC and have access to the internet?

What would you do differently?

Comments (Page 4)
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on Oct 30, 2006
While mine aren't teens yet, if it ever gets to the point where they get mad at me for snooping, I'll have to ask myself whether I'd rather have them mad at me or in serious danger because I didn't snoop.


Not a tough question to answer I'm guessing.

Thanks for making it back
on Oct 30, 2006
I wonder, BakerStreet, if you remember being a teenager . Do you really believe you could have gracefully accepted to have no privacy from your parents ? Like, for example, having you parents listening to every phonecalls you made ? In my case, I think it would have been a recipe for disaster

Gideon : I think a 13yo is clever enough to understand to be careful with people he does not really know. It's also a matter of trust : if my kids trust me, they will listen to me, rather than to a stranger "met" on Internet. But I don't think you can build trust one way only. If you want to be trusted, you must trust, I think, especially with teenagers.

Also, I don't think I can have a responsible kid, if I don't let him be responsible. (this idea was also expressed here by Dan Greene)

Xynthe : If you believe you're teaching correctly Shelby good habits, and the law of consequences, why do you still need to monitor her ? I mean, you've taught her Internet for 3 years (and you taught her life for 14 years ) , don't you think she understands now ? And that if she's in doubt about something, she'll ask you for advice before doing something bad ?
on Oct 30, 2006
"I wonder, BakerStreet, if you remember being a teenager . Do you really believe you could have gracefully accepted to have no privacy from your parents ? Like, for example, having you parents listening to every phonecalls you made ? In my case, I think it would have been a recipe for disaster"


yes, I remember.

Yes, I accepted it because it was the reality of our existence. My parents didn't give me locks and then demand the key, we had an open house and if I talked on the phone it was in an open area. It isn't intrusive if everyone is open.

Maybe your life is different. I tend to think that the honestly and openness of parents leads to honesty and openness in kids and teens. If the parents are privacy freaks, I think their kids tend to emulate them.

That's why I say, the computer stays in a common room, there's no trouble. You can't sneak when you are out in the open. The same with phone calls. The trouble is giving kids things in "private" areas and then expecting to be able to see in there. In order to do so you have to overtly "spy".
on Oct 30, 2006
Gideon : I think a 13yo is clever enough to understand to be careful with people he does not really know.


Right. That's why 13 year old children are never abducted by strangers they met on Internet forums who lured them in.

Oh wait. They are. You're wrong.
on Oct 30, 2006
we are in total agreement gideon on this one.
on Oct 30, 2006
Xynthe : If you believe you're teaching correctly Shelby good habits, and the law of consequences, why do you still need to monitor her ? I mean, you've taught her Internet for 3 years (and you taught her life for 14 years ) , don't you think she understands now ? And that if she's in doubt about something, she'll ask you for advice before doing something bad ?


I don't monitor nearly as much as I did a few years back, but yes, I still occasionally do. Why? Because shes older now, and needs a different kind of looking after. At age 11, boys were still pretty icky, but not at age 14.

She is still a developing her very impressionable mind, and understanding comes in increments with kids.

Make no mistake, there are issues a 14 year-old girl is simply not going to bring to my attention. This really isn't a matter of trusting or not trusting, but rather a matter of: hey, I got a great kid, but shes not perfect There are still many lessons for her, some she will learn on her own. She will never always seek my advice, and I'd be a fool if I thought otherwise.

I suppose because she is my precious child, I will always monitor her to some extent even as she grows into an adult; just not with respect to her PC though
on Oct 30, 2006
Also, I don't think I can have a responsible kid, if I don't let him be responsible


you can only give your kids so much rope, if you give them too much they are likely either to entangle themselves or hang themselves with it.

When my kids were two and three they had boundries. They could not go out of the yard. When they were six, eight and nine they could go down the street to the corner and that was it. When they were pre teens and teens they could go a bit further. When they got their licenses they could go to the next town or so. I wouldn't let them drive to Boston. Every year their boundries would expand....but never would I just let them go at 13. That's being an irresponsible parent. Letting them "go" where they want on the internet would be like dumping them in the middle of NYC and saying...oh, remember what I taught you. See ya. They can't outsmart those that are only too willing to prey on those kids that have little parental control. We, as parents, serve to be the "roadblocks" to those perverts out there. Sad to say, they'll go elsewhere to those kids that don't have barriers.

I raised my three sons the same way. Two showed they were listening and were responsible. One did not. I more than once foiled an attempt by him (without his knowing) that would have sent him down the wrong road. His rope got shortened on more than one occasion. If it weren't for the red flags and my snooping, he would not be the fine man he has turned out to be. It was alot of work to get him to this point.

The saying goes, it you give them an inch they will take a mile...is very true. So we need to be careful exactly how much we give them. A little goes a long way.


on Oct 30, 2006
you can only give your kids so much rope, if you give them too much they are likely either to entangle themselves or hang themselves with it.


Exactly KFC!
on Oct 31, 2006
I didn't read all the comments so if this is a repeat..sorry.

Use any word you like, spying, supervising, whatever. If it will keep my kid safe you can bet your butt I will do it.

on Oct 31, 2006
Use any word you like, spying, supervising, whatever. If it will keep my kid safe you can bet your butt I will do it.


I find it hard to believe that any parent would say otherwise.
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